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Dear Sir, For the accuracy of the article "Kaghakatzi conscripts in Ottoman army" under the section of "Tales and anecdotes - delightful episodes from the colorful saga of the Kaghakatzis," I would like to correct certain inputs in this article: 1- the context: "Among the escapees was Hovagim Sahagian (Abu Ishaq), who sought refuge in an old mill at the Wad el Quilt resort near Jericho." The real name is not Hovagim Sahagian but Hovagim Koukeian. 2- The context: "During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, he suffered an irreparable loss with the death of his son Ishaq and his daughter-in-law" is not fully correct. Ishaq is actually the son of his wife Nour who was previously married to a Sahagian and hence the name of the son is Ishaq Sahagian, therefore Nevart is not his granddaughter but the granddaughter of Hovagim's wife Nour. Hope to see the correction next time I read this article. Regards, Vartouhi Koukeian (Aug 26, 2008) Thank you, Vartouhi, for pointing these out to us. The corrections have been made. As we get closely identical material from different sources, it is possible that sometimes the information varies. It is thanks to good people like you who alert us to inconsistencies that we can set things right. Editor |
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Greetings, I just learned of your interesting Kaghakatzi Armenian Family Tree Project from Dick Eastman's online genealogy blog http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/07/armenian-patria.html Being an amateur genealogist with one-half of my ancestry being Jewish, I was interested in seeing what names might be in the Jerusalem Kaghakatzi tree. Additionally, one of my friends is of Armenian descent; and I had hoped to be able to do a quick search on his surname so I could let him know if I found something. I was dismayed to see that only those involved in the project or those having a name in the database may view the database. I understand your concerns about privacy and security for your community. The Jewish community has the same problem, as you know. However, there may be genealogists, working on behalf of Armenian clients, who will not be able to perform this part of their investigation with these restrictions in place. I would like to make a suggestion that may get around this impasse. You could adopt the same mechanisms that Jewishgen.org has implemented. Simplistically, the major names databases in JewishGen have been made searchable online, but one must register in order to search. The databases are not "grabbable" by those who may wish to peel off names and other information for undesirable purposes. If your database were to be offered online in this way, rather than as a download-able PDF document listing all names and related information wholesale, the database might be of more use to many more people than it is currently. You might go to JewishGen.org and register (no fee is involved) to see how their main databases, such as the JewishGen Family Finder, work. I have been part of the JewishGen community for about 14 years, and I have never heard of a problem in presentation of data in this way. My suggestion is offered simply to advance and encourage genealogical research. I am not a professional researcher profiting from genealogical research. I am a professional systems librarian with 34 years experience who is also an experienced genealogical researcher. I occasionally help people with varying ancestries find information about their family origins, and so I have a broad interest in the genealogy of all ethnic groups. I also want to compliment you on the opening Flash presentation to your website. It is most attractive! I usually skip those types of intros, but your was lovely and I stayed to watch. Additionally, I see much information about this particular Jerusalem community, and I plan to return to your website to read and learn more. Thank you. Regards, Donna Dinberg Ottawa, Ontario, Canada blacknus@rogers.com While we appreciate the interest generated over our website, we remain bound by the dictates of our charter: the Kaghakatzi Family Tree Project is an effort to preserve the history and culture of this community, not to publish family details of community members. The family tree database belongs to the Kaghakatzis - and until such time as they decide to make it accessible, it must, regrettably, remain private. Editor |
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Dear Arthur, First let me congratulate you on a job well done. I am delighted with the idea and also the execution. I myself was born in Jerusalem and my family lived there from 1927-1990's. We lived in the Convent and my grandfather was a Brother of the St. James Brotherhood (his name was the same as mine, Hovhannes Yergainharsian). I understand that the Patriarchate is also recording family trees on CD and was wondering why these and the Kaghakatzi records are not combined? Are we not the same community i.e. Armenians in Jerusalem? Furthermore, why aren't the Patriarchate records on the net? Why just CD's? I really would like to see my own family tree records updated and also trace long lost friends and relations. This kind of website would be of immense help. Congratulations again and well done. If I can be of any help please do not hesitate to contact me. Kind Regards Ohan Yergainharsian Sona Nutrition Ltd. www.Sona.ie We are thinking of devoting a section to our Jerusalem Vanketzi cousins, inviting comments, photographs, archives, reminiscences, but there really is no scope at the Kaghakatzi Family Tree project for a Vanketzi family tree database. Those families are not inter-related - each family would have to have its own personal tree. All we can do in such a case is to provide technical advice and assistance. Please note Patriarchate records are private and confidential and can not be published on the net. Also, no CD's are disseminated. Editor |
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Greetings, Just found your very interesting site and am looking forward to really studying it. I have two great grandparents who made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and am wondering if it is possible to find the records of having been here. I can give correct names and possible dates of their journeys. I am working on the history of our family tree which goes way back in Russia and Turkey. I will appreciate your comments. Joyce Bivin Because our particular charter, we are confined to researching and preserving only records of the Kaghakatzi Armenian community of Jerusalem and their descendants. If your grandparents have any Kaghakatzi connections, we would love to hear more about them. Editor |
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Hello,
I am Dutch,
married to a girl from Indonesia.
Her family
name is Isaaks, and there is a family story that their family has
Armenian roots.
We once found
a jeweler in Rhodos with the same family name and he said he was
Armenian!
Maybe others
of that name also travelled to Jerusalem!
So, if you
find anything about that name, please inform me.
Kind regards
Leo van der
Plas
The Kaghakatzi Family Tree project is concerned only with preserving the records of the Kaghakatzi Armenian community of Jerusalem. If your wife's family has any connection to this community, we would love to hear from her. Editor |
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Greetings!
I have just
seen your kaghakatzi.org website and I applaud this wonderful effort.
However,
when I clicked to register and obtain a "key", the page was empty
- completely blank.
I am Director
of Research for The Genealogical Research Library in Canada. I would
like to be able to contribute some work towards your website, and
of course also have a "key" to browse through your database.
We have records
spanning several countries in Europe (Poland, Hungary, and Russia)
as well as Canada. We could, for example, prepare a database to
contribute details of some Armenians in these and many other countries,
if we had a list of Armenian surnames. Could you provide us with
such a list?
Please advise
in some way that we could contribute, and share in this great effort.
We would be open to any kind of exchange as well, if desired.
Thank you!
Noel Montgomery
Elliot,
Director
of Research
The Genealogical
Research Library
www.grl.com
Thank you for your encouragement and for your interest in our project. We would value your contribution. However, please note our field is confined to the Kaghakatzi Armenian community of Jerusalem. While the website is accessible to all, genealogical records of community members can be viewed only by them. Unfortunately, at the moment, we cannot share our database with any other genealogical library. If you have any information regarding the Kaghakatzi Armenians of Jerusalem, or their descendants, we would appreciate hearing from you again. Editor |
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Vanketzis should start their own photo library. I would love to see one site, one collection, one archive, combining our one community [Kaghakatzis and Vanketzis]. Besides, it's impossible to have separate archives since we loved cheek by jowl, intermarried, went to school together and are in the same group photographs. And yes, we are both Jerusalemite Armenians. We could all email our pictures to someone who would undertake - as the Kaghakatzis have thankfully done - to download and to organize them. A project like this can get financial support from the political parties, churches, people like Kirkorian, the Gulbenkian Foundation, AGBU, even the Republic of Armenia. If these photos are not collected and classified, they will disappear (I am sure many already have) within a generation or two. That would a disgrace and vast loss. The question is this: Who will come forward to take over this precious project? Jirair Tutunjian |
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Dr. Ayvazyan , during this visit, has also appeared on numerous television programs in Los Angeles and spoke on Armenian strategic thought, foreign media coverage of Armenian issues, internal situation in Armenia, Azerbaijani & Turkish media propaganda, Armenian issues, Armenian military history and the Armenian identity. We hope that you will find these television video clip interviews interesting. The interviews are in Armenian language.
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